TonyP wrote on Aug 16, 2008 7:48 AM:
" Lynch said restaurant associations that previously opposed the statewide ban favored it after learning that there wasnt a substantial amount of income lost by establishments in cities where bans were in place........
I have never heard of any association of the entertainment industry that supported a smoking ban. Just another tactic used by the anti crowd. Everybody else is doing it, you should too.
Also - there is no economic data that suggest restaurants and bars increase in business. The anti have put out a ton of so called "economic studies" that show that. In every case, the numbers have been altered. A study done in the twin cites showed an increase - if you didn't read the small print you would have missed they omitted winter months when no one will go outside to smoke. Other studies, they exclude alcohol sales. In other words, they have no problem lying to get what they want. "
WS Native and SOON to be a resident of again. wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:51 AM:
" Thank you "We're not socialists", "Lifelong" & others in disagreement of a smoking ban. I agree this woman has nothing better to do and wants her 15 minutes of fame.
As to the Madison bars (contrary to what someone wrote) are NOT doing well. The Madison bar owners strongly protested the bill to make the bars in Madison "smoke free". Patrons have gone elsewhere. They are NOT "packed" as someone stated. I LIVE THERE (here). That person obviously does not frequent bars in Madison. Fine. That's his or her choice but don't state untrue facts. Has this person checked anyplace other than State Street?
Well, I am a West Salem native and have never heard of this woman. Who is she and why is she trying to govern my home town?????????!!!!!!!!
Please natives, show her the way to go home. "
Or ... wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:23 PM:
" Well, for one thing, cars are useful and necessary. Smoking ... well, not so much.
Nobody's running their cars in the bars. You can smoke in the street, too, if you want. Just make sure to look both ways. "
to or wrote on Aug 14, 2008 8:53 PM:
" So i ask you then why not make it against the law to put fumes from your car on my street!! Pretty stupid right? We all know that nobody is gonna give up there car. Why not let the bar owner choose smoking or non smoking,,If you don't like smoke go somewhere else for crying out loud. "
yo lifelong wrote on Aug 14, 2008 6:40 PM:
" Hello!!!!!!!! Are your initials S L ?? that would explain your statement..I for 1 want the rights of all businees owners to be protected if you pay your taxes you make the rules period. What next a task force for smoking illeaglely at our expense? We already have enough rules and regulations we can not enforce already.the bottom line is our saving grace sue lynch is sticking her nose into things that do not even pertain to her as in what happens in a bar.What is the reason for this? Please don't inflict your morals or beliefs on me . "
Or ... wrote on Aug 14, 2008 6:33 PM:
" Maybe Sue Lynch cares about other people (never thought I'd think that of such a staunch Republican, but there you go), which is a lot more than we can say about some smokers who go spewing their filth for others to breathe. "
to lifelong wrote on Aug 14, 2008 5:06 PM:
" Are you for real? Not seeing sue lynch in any bars downtown is a justified statement.. If you did not know this ban was for bars..(duh) so saying she is not seen there has some relevence, Why does she care if she never is there? (busy body with nothing else to do).So i'm sure you will not understand this either so I will just consider the source..so look up the word idiot, and then try again..thank you "
Were not socialists yet unless Obama gets elected wrote on Aug 14, 2008 2:46 PM:
" Leave it up the a business owners. They pay the bills, taxes, ect... It's not the governments choice. If you don't like it, show them with your hard earned $$$ "
lifelong wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:23 PM:
" Go Away...what does not seeing Sue Lynch in any downtown bars have to do with ANYTHING? Truly?? Idiot. "
lifelong wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:22 PM:
" It is just a matter of time before it passes in the entire state--kudos to Sue for just trying to do what Eau Claire, Marshfield, and the other various towns have already done & taken things into their own hands to make their community a healthier, NICER place to visit and live and work. Smokers, you will need to realize that this is the way of the world...get used to it or (here's an OUTRAGEOUS idea)....QUIT smoking! You'll have more money, you won't stink or have a nasty cough. Think about it, it's not as dumb of an idea as you want us to think it is. "
wiseup wrote on Aug 12, 2008 10:38 PM:
" It is all about control. Some people must control others, its their mission in life. Usually they are Sue Lynch types, older mother types or former teachers. Speeding, littering, reckless driving, fireworks, public intox and drugs~ The laws don't seem to help. The law enforcement can't properly PROTECT and SERVE if they are forced to be cigarette police too! What is next? Sting operations to entrap businesses because someone lights up and they don't have the smoker arrested or kicked out fast enough? "
froto wrote on Aug 12, 2008 2:30 PM:
" they said we would lose the american revolution also, Just for the record i am a non smoker but i am also a american!! we need to worry about the violence that plauges our streets (gangs) the drugs that fill our schools and so on and so forth.It just kills me when i look at the paper and FROTO is in every part of the paper putting his or her 2 cents in and always right it must be such a blessing! "
re Froto wrote on Aug 12, 2008 6:53 AM:
" Wow man.....relax. Maybe you should take up smoking to help you relax. I am just telling you, it is just a matter of time before the smoking ban will pass. Then the MAJORITY of the people will be happy. Life will go on. The earth will keep spinning. You should just support a cause that you can win...and this isn't one of them. "
Cost too much wrote on Aug 11, 2008 8:54 PM:
" Ye Gawds......allow these bars and restaurants the chance to serve smokers. All I know that is here in Minnesota, it is costing too much money because I go out to eat more often since I do not come home smelling like an ashtray.
I can't count how many times we decided to stay in Winona to eat versus going across the bridge bbecause we enjoy a smoke-free environment. In the past, I could always defend not going out because of the smoke-filled establishments....now, I have to spend a lot more money at local restaurants/bars.
Bring back smoking and I will save a ton of money!!! "
to smokers wrote on Aug 11, 2008 1:49 PM:
" wow at the tip of your nose thats a new one. What about your car or truck that smokes..If you had a stinky old barn and it also served beer it would be my choice whether or not to go to it,,,Bottom line if the smell bothered me i could decide to go elsewhere,,But it is BIG BROTHER making my decision for me yhat really offends me..Have you ever heard the old addage give em an inch and they will take a mile,,be careful "
what wrote on Aug 11, 2008 1:44 PM:
" what is crown7? "
UKNOWWHO wrote on Aug 11, 2008 10:48 AM:
" Well as businesses are closing and people are getting upset, why don't people just turn to Crown7, the alternative of smoking. You can smoke these anywhere without breaking the law or the bans. "
Mike wrote on Aug 11, 2008 10:06 AM:
" Michigan has not passed a statewide smoking ban. Competing versions have passed the state house and senate, but differences over exemptions have prevented anything from being sent to the governor. "
Froto wrote on Aug 11, 2008 9:47 AM:
" As to the bars and restaurants not going under that's joke also. People will still patronize these establishments, yes some will go down, the bigger issue is that you and yours are again boosting your large egos by forcing others to cow-to your whims. If you do not like smoke stay away, pure and simple and the rest stop trying to run others lives as if you were appointed and have special dispensation from some higher power. Get off you high horses and mind you own business. In otherwords these constant due gooders have no life, well get one or get the **&&^%% out of ours. "
Froto wrote on Aug 11, 2008 9:43 AM:
" reply to re;Froto. So you scream about majority as long as it suits you, yet you probably also scream minority rule in other cases. You cannot have it both ways. this issue is like so many built on completely hyped up and misleading facts based soley on fear. Their is no factual data that second hand smoke kills in one lifetime. Some of you are so duped because you want so desperately to beleive in and belong to something that you do want to mix up fact with the truth. Drink 100 gal of straight sucrose and you would probably have a problem. Stick you head inside a smoker and you would probably die of smoke inhilation. You always work in the extremes completely removed from reality. "
Bob wrote on Aug 11, 2008 7:45 AM:
" A lot of small bars here in Chicago ignore the ban. Any fines that may occur are just considered another cost of doing business. Their customers pay their bills, not the government. "
ME wrote on Aug 11, 2008 6:43 AM:
" I'd support it! "
learn your facts wrote on Aug 10, 2008 9:16 PM:
" first of all this life ending deal with second hand smoke is a joke.. Everytime you go outside and start your car you are putting poison in the air ,, everytime you put your hairspray on you are putting poison in the air, lets not mention big business with there huge smoke stacks.. The reason no ones brings these facts out is $$$$$$$ plain and simple..All the bunny lovers and tree huggers and so on and so forth, quit driving your car (what a joke) I do not smoke but i do believe that the majority of the people that are making the most noise don't even go to bars. So put some effort into something a bit more important like drunk driving or something that is a serious threat.12 people every hour 24 hours a day die due to alchol related driving accidents "
Annie wrote on Aug 9, 2008 11:26 PM:
" This YUPPIE is a die hard republican - in fact I think her husband is in charge of the county party. "
Joe Schmoe wrote on Aug 8, 2008 6:05 PM:
" Give it a year, the whole state will have a smoking ban just like everyone of our other neighboring states. I can't wait until i can go into a place and have a drink without smoking someone else's secondhand butt smoke! "
re Froto wrote on Aug 8, 2008 2:31 PM:
" These clowns (as you call them) represent the MAJORITY of the population that doesn't smoke. Businesses will not fail because of a smoking ban. Sure, they might have a different clientele, but they will survive. Look at the bars in Madison that has a smoking ban. They almost always packed...smoking ban didn't seem to hurt them. "
Smokers wrote on Aug 8, 2008 1:29 PM:
" It's just a matter of time before you will be banned. Just give it up....and give up the individual rights agrument. Your individual rights end at the tip of my nose and unless you have some magical way to keep me from breathing your cancer causing second hand smoke when I am near you, your rights end. And don't tell me to leave because I have just as much "individual" right to be there as you do. "
Froto wrote on Aug 8, 2008 9:02 AM:
" When is the public ever going to stand up for individual rights. These clowns for no smoking think they can run everones life. I do not smoke. If I do not want to be around smoke I do not patronize that establishment. If you do not want to be around smoke then find another job. Eventually the business will grow or fail completely if they cannot find employees or customers. These do-gooders with nothing else to do except try to look important to the public need to find a real life. "
jrs wrote on Aug 8, 2008 9:01 AM:
" How did we get stuck with a "consultant for Smoke Free Wisconsin" living in our town this yuppie is tring to ruin every thing. "
ynnek wrote on Aug 8, 2008 7:51 AM:
" Amen- Good call. It shouldn't be up to the board. If you don't like smoke... don't go. It's simple. "
Amen wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:31 PM:
" If we don't want to go to places that allow smoking, then we don't have to. But let it be the people's choice--not the village board! "
village board wrote on Aug 7, 2008 4:16 PM:
" about time you voted for the vast majority instead of a few that run this town.. "
go away wrote on Aug 7, 2008 4:12 PM:
" sue lynch??? never seen her in any of the downtown bars.. Sounds to me like a person on a mission without any regards to the local economy or business owners. "
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